Discussion:
LIMEX MC10 controller flash with the accordion grill
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John's Musical
2005-12-21 12:36:18 UTC
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Attention current LIMEX MIDI system owners and a future customers.

Some of our customers requested to have a choice of MC10 controller flash with the accordion grill.

We are pleased to inform you that it is now available at John`s Musical Instruments.

We can replace it to current owners of LIMEX MIDI system or offer it with a new installation.

To view it please follow this link:

http://www.johnsaccordionservice.com/

Sincerely,

John
w.d.
2005-12-23 03:08:14 UTC
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Does anybody know if John Gauns from Florida is still around?

He use to sell for around $200 American made simple MIDI converter
units for accordion that suppose to be very good.

I would like to buy a couple of those for my next projects.

Thanks for any information how to find him.

Enjoy it and Merry Christmas!
W.D.
John's Musical
2005-12-23 08:13:33 UTC
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W.D.

What is your message on this post got to do anything with the LIMEX MIDI
systems?
John
~Dream~
2005-12-23 21:32:32 UTC
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hi Walter

up until a few months ago, he was still advertising in the
classifieds of "the Music trades" - though he is not in
the current issue, nor is he listed anywhere in the new
"Purchasers guide to the Music industries"

509 Florida Ave.
Clearwater, Florida 33756
727 443 4113
Post by w.d.
Does anybody know if John Gauns from Florida is still around?
while the Music Trades mag and the yearly guide are the "Bible"
of our Industry, they are by no means a complete picture, as
most of the Accordion trade is so small it falls through the
cracks of the Music Industry, which is so small IT falls
through the cracks compared to really BIG industry like,
ummm
Calendars (lol)
Lawn Mowers
ummm
pretty much everything else

Anyhow, notably the American Accordionists Association is no
longer listed under the associations section, for instance
( a lapse that was never allowed to happen under a former
Stewardess'ship's watchful eye... hehehe )

the most impressive presence in the mainstream journal
is still the Deffner group, with a listing under
Music Publishing ( Deffner ), and under Music Products
one each for Crucianelli, Titano, Pancordion and E.Deffner

Single listings for Acc. exchange, Acc Int. Acc and Kbd,
Castiglione, Huang, Gabanelli, Hohner, Lark, Petosa, Bell
and Weltmeister

double for Iorio and Syncordion

the Cemex listing is gone, of course and a single fax number
to a separate line (one assumes) at the Pigini offices
is all that is left of Excelsior's listing (lol)

In the top 225 Global music and audio (to the trade) not one single
company for whom Accordions are the principle product line
is represented, of course, which pretty much assures us that
everyone else is doing less than 9 million a year in business...
Hohner's sales figures are not broken down, though one would
think if they were doing 10 million in Accordions, they would have
never "rocked the boat" by outsourcing to China. Hohner is still
listed as a German company, though several years ago the Chinese
component was reported in Financial news as having purchased
controlling (majority) interest in the company. Honor is still
listed as parent to Sonor (drums) and HSS (Distributing)

Draw your own conclusions, of course, but for me it does suggest the
state of "health" of various companies to see their listings and
presence in the trade magazines, and at the trade shows.

Master, Limex, Orla, Musitec, and others are listed in the
international section, which is re-assuring, and I assume
by now Limex address is to more than a garage door under
a residential house in Castlefidardo (which it was on my
first visit) Master has always had a nice sized
2 story stand-alone modern facility which even has a
performance (sound stage) for trying out new equipment.
They also sell to more than just the Accordion trade, and have
even had long-term contracts with Roland Europe regarding
retrofitting Roland products for the French and other specialty
markets.
Fortunately for us, the people at Master love the Accordion
and so they continue to provide state of the art electronics
and service to us.

There will always be accordion companies on the way up
(like Fisitalia)
riding the crest
(like Beltuna)
treading water
(Zero, Pigini, Guerrini, etc.)
and some bleeding once venerable brand names of every vestige of value
(too many to list :(

The days of trusting (accordion)a brand name are rapidly drawing
to a close... you had better trust the evidence of your eyes, hands
and ears on a case by case basis. There is no "comparison by
specs" as there once was... you can have a tone chamber worth
$1000 dollars or one made out of mahogany plywood stapled and glued
together and leaking air like a sieve... you can have a man claim
(on an internet webpage) that his new Piermaria's are the direct
decendant of Elka (ROFLMF______A__Off)
PS: Elka was an electronics manufacturing firm
you can have another man say "there is only a little bit of
chinese content in these accordions" which is about like saying
"my daughter told me she is just a little bit pregnant"

yes, you had better trust your eyes and ears and hands and
try before you buy...

sheesh we've even had people get on here and say how
happy they were with their parrot's
(really ROFLMF______A__Off now)

Ciao

Ventura

Merry Christmas Walter, i'll save you last years guide
and bring it to you in the Spring... i need to visit you
and i want to see Faith next year too so you can expect me
after winter breaks
w.d.
2005-12-24 03:31:39 UTC
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To Johh,

I wrote to you before to purchase the MIDI converter unit from you,
instead, getting it from Europe, but I don't remember if you wrote to
me back. See john, I know also very well how to install MIDIs with
great success but I do not represent any particular company an dthis is
my hobby anyway.

I think that if anyone finds a space in any posting in this group and
writes about accordions or ask questions about them, than all is
related and should be welcome.

I thank Phil for telling how to find that lost address. I'll call him
after Holdiday to find out all about it. John Gauns never adveritzed
about this unit. I founf this out from accordionist who wrote to me
e-mails from California.

Yes, Phil you can visit me all the time on the way to Deffner in the
Spring. Im ight catch a hike with you if you allow it. I will share the
cost of travel from NJ to NY.

It's nice to here from you Phil again.
I wish you most wonderful Holidaays you ever had.

The same wishes apply to John Kiezun. John, I like your Serbian style
six row Paulo Soprani. If, I could afford something like that when I
was young, surely I would spend more at least on experimenting on
B-system. This is really sophisticated machine.

Happy Holidays to All,
Walter D.
John's Musical
2005-12-24 07:59:13 UTC
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Walter,

You know very well what you meant with your post/question.

I know you are a smart person as many other on this group and I do not have
any doubts that you are capable to install a simple MIDI, but LIMEX is
different.

LIMEX MIDI offers not only a best quality in the system itself but also a
styles and MIDI file player .......and all of that is located inside of the
accordion including a sound module. The total weight is only 8 to 10 oz.

So,- " BIG" is not always the best weather it is a building or equipment.

As to my Paolo Soprani, - You call it as a Serbian instrument, but in fact
this is a B- system bayan and it is not that difficult to learn to play it.

Mery Christmas and a Happy New Year

John
Johann Pascher
2005-12-24 19:18:00 UTC
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Hi Walter, John, …


LIMEX MIDI is the market leader, and is a Austrian product, so you want
find much in Castelfidaro.

And on the web page the state, that there is soon a English version of
the WebPages.

http://www.limexmusic.com/_page06/_english.htm


Ventura wrote:

“and I assume by now Limex address is to more than a garage door under
a residential house in Castlefidardo (which it was on my
first visit)“


By the way Ventura, i did reed your comments with much interest, hope
you tell us more as soon you find time to write again.

Best regards, Johann
Post by ~Dream~
Walter,
You know very well what you meant with your post/question.
I know you are a smart person as many other on this group and I do not have
any doubts that you are capable to install a simple MIDI, but LIMEX is
different.
LIMEX MIDI offers not only a best quality in the system itself but also a
styles and MIDI file player .......and all of that is located inside of the
accordion including a sound module. The total weight is only 8 to 10 oz.
So,- " BIG" is not always the best weather it is a building or equipment.
As to my Paolo Soprani, - You call it as a Serbian instrument, but in fact
this is a B- system bayan and it is not that difficult to learn to play it.
Mery Christmas and a Happy New Year
John
w.d.
2005-12-24 20:51:29 UTC
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John,
I don't know if I'm that smart. In any case I did not try to hurt your
business. I rather popularized it by asking that question. All the
people who want to use your services will come to you regardless of any
question somebody poses.
As far as that six row accordion, yes, I agree that it's the double
three row B-system. This system is used primarily in Balkans by Serbian
professional players. In Bulgaria also Balkan country professional
players use mostly Scandalli piano accordions.

Sincerley,
W.D.
alexrat
2005-12-25 12:42:16 UTC
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In Bulgaria also Balkan country professional
Post by w.d.
players use mostly Scandalli piano accordions.
Sincerley,
W.D.
Ok, I"ll ask: Why do Balkan country professionals play mostly Scandalli
PAs? Do you mean country music as in American country music or rural
players?
Thanks.

BOba
w.d.
2005-12-25 18:50:35 UTC
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One young accordion artist who came to USA from Bulgaria for a tour a
few years back. He wanted to purchase a professional Scandalli
accordion and he told me that. I also talked to other players from
Balkan coutries even those from former Yugoslavia and they told me the
same.
They use mostly Dallape double tree row B-system on flat keyboard, and
Scandalli piano accordions and sometimes Borsini.
They play very fast music, and Scandalli has the most superior treble
keyboard and the bass system that never fails. In addition professional
Scandallis have very nice and smooth musette similar to Paulo Soprani
but even more refined. Old Scandallis that are sold sometimes on eBay
are really underpriced in comparison to other "loud" names among
accordion manufacturers.

Enjoy it,
W.D.
~Dream~
2005-12-28 00:22:02 UTC
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hi Johann
Post by Johann Pascher
LIMEX MIDI is the market leader, and is a Austrian product, so you want
find much in Castelfidaro.

yes you are right, i apologise my memory is not what it once was...
the incident i referred to was about 1993, when i was tracking down
companies and addresses in Castlefidardo the first time, and found
Master even then had a fine modern facility, and their competition
actually did have just the basement garage of some residential house.
it must have been Musitec who eventually sold a lot of midi's to the
accordion makers so i guess they did alright :)

my reports on Castlefi are in the google newsgroup archives, and can be
easily searched from the root
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.music.makers.squeezebox

the following url was the result of searching for "castlefidardo"
within that group archives

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.music.makers.squeezebox/search?group=rec.music.makers.squeezebox&q=castlefidardo&qt_g=1&searchnow=Search+this+group

hi Bob,
Post by Johann Pascher
Ok, I"ll ask: Why do Balkan country professionals play mostly Scandalli
PAs? Do you mean country music as in American country music or rural
players?
Thanks.
BOba
i found out (over time) that a lot of the accordion
houses in Italy focused their marketing efforts on
different and specific parts of the world, which
may have had to do with luck, tastes, limited resources
and all that. To my knowedge, for instance, in many
of the Scandinavian countries Zero Sette and the Pro line
Excelsiors are worth their weight in Gold... the Bosnian war
hurt Guerrini a lot (recall the chin shift on many of their models)
as the Yugoslav region loves their product (but had no money to
buy any for a long time)

so when Walter says that Scandalli was the darling of that
area of Eastern Europe with which he is familiar, i can
easily believe it :)

Naturally, the French locals have an edge on other brands,
but the relationship of (the old) SEM and Piermaria certainly
provided a huge part of the pie to French musicians, though
now you will notice FisItalia has made strong inroads into
that specific market by giving the French what they want.

Ciao

Ventura

hehehehe i can tell you this, a LOT of us wish we
could get our hands on one of the "real" Scandalli's
from the heyday of that company... in my opinion, no
single company was more dedicated to innovation than
Scandalli nor more influential in their time... though
sadly the excellent designs and machines and tooling used
to produce them is long gone. nor was it just their top
of the line accordions, as they were seriously interested
in putting really decent sounding, light and playable
instruments into the hands of the students too, unlike many
of the mid-priced accordions which had all the fake and
duplicate shifts and baubles and stuff to fool parents into paying
way too much for way too little.

come to think of it, i guess they had the first actual
"reedless" accordion when they stuffed their Farfisa
transistors into that one model... or was that funny oddball
Elkavox with the volume "pedal" bellows the actual first
reedless?
Johann Pascher
2005-12-28 08:30:57 UTC
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~Dream~ schrieb:

“i apologise my memory is not what it once was...”

Yes this happens to everyone of us, still i appreciate every sentence
from you, keep on writing and contributing to this group.

I am sure you would have much more in your mind as you ever did write down.
So it is up to us to think about better questions!

Have you ever been to France Accordion Factories too?

Best regards, and a happy new Year, Johann
Post by ~Dream~
hi Johann
Post by Johann Pascher
LIMEX MIDI is the market leader, and is a Austrian product, so you want
find much in Castelfidaro.
yes you are right, i apologise my memory is not what it once was...
the incident i referred to was about 1993, when i was tracking down
companies and addresses in Castlefidardo the first time, and found
Master even then had a fine modern facility, and their competition
actually did have just the basement garage of some residential house.
it must have been Musitec who eventually sold a lot of midi's to the
accordion makers so i guess they did alright :)
my reports on Castlefi are in the google newsgroup archives, and can be
easily searched from the root
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.music.makers.squeezebox
the following url was the result of searching for "castlefidardo"
within that group archives
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.music.makers.squeezebox/search?group=rec.music.makers.squeezebox&q=castlefidardo&qt_g=1&searchnow=Search+this+group
hi Bob,
Post by Johann Pascher
Ok, I"ll ask: Why do Balkan country professionals play mostly Scandalli
PAs? Do you mean country music as in American country music or rural
players?
Thanks.
BOba
i found out (over time) that a lot of the accordion
houses in Italy focused their marketing efforts on
different and specific parts of the world, which
may have had to do with luck, tastes, limited resources
and all that. To my knowedge, for instance, in many
of the Scandinavian countries Zero Sette and the Pro line
Excelsiors are worth their weight in Gold... the Bosnian war
hurt Guerrini a lot (recall the chin shift on many of their models)
as the Yugoslav region loves their product (but had no money to
buy any for a long time)
so when Walter says that Scandalli was the darling of that
area of Eastern Europe with which he is familiar, i can
easily believe it :)
Naturally, the French locals have an edge on other brands,
but the relationship of (the old) SEM and Piermaria certainly
provided a huge part of the pie to French musicians, though
now you will notice FisItalia has made strong inroads into
that specific market by giving the French what they want.
Ciao
Ventura
hehehehe i can tell you this, a LOT of us wish we
could get our hands on one of the "real" Scandalli's
from the heyday of that company... in my opinion, no
single company was more dedicated to innovation than
Scandalli nor more influential in their time... though
sadly the excellent designs and machines and tooling used
to produce them is long gone. nor was it just their top
of the line accordions, as they were seriously interested
in putting really decent sounding, light and playable
instruments into the hands of the students too, unlike many
of the mid-priced accordions which had all the fake and
duplicate shifts and baubles and stuff to fool parents into paying
way too much for way too little.
come to think of it, i guess they had the first actual
"reedless" accordion when they stuffed their Farfisa
transistors into that one model... or was that funny oddball
Elkavox with the volume "pedal" bellows the actual first
reedless?
w.d.
2005-12-27 11:01:32 UTC
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Hi Ventura,

Thanks for information. I found John Gaunt. I remember his name very
well. Yes, he has MIDI controllers but for Iorio - Model G and H piano
accordions for sale. If someone has Iorio accordion like that it would
be good news for him.
As far as MIDI controllers with magnetic contacts, he doesn't sell
those, however, they can install those in your accordion.

Enjoy it,
W.D.
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