parts for Weltmeister Regal

[d***@gmail.com]

I've had a slide break up near the end block (the block that the knob screws into). These are flexible plastic slides, not wood. There's enough sticking out that I was able to tape it down.

I'm wondering where I can get a new slide. Wondering if they also sell a new block, as it has a groove in it that part of the slide fits into, and I'm going to assume the different stops have the block configured slightly differently based on how they are positioned together (but I could be wrong about that).

Also, what glue would be used to glue the slide to the block? I know hide glue is used in lots of accordion building, but, this is a plastic to wood bond.

[Ike Milligan]

Post by d***@gmail.com
I've had a slide break up near the end block (the block that the knob screws into). These are flexible plastic slides, not wood. There's enough sticking out that I was able to tape it down.
I'm wondering where I can get a new slide. Wondering if they also sell a new block, as it has a groove in it that part of the slide fits into, and I'm going to assume the different stops have the block configured slightly differently based on how they are positioned together (but I could be wrong about that).
Also, what glue would be used to glue the slide to the block? I know hide glue is used in lots of accordion building, but, this is a plastic to wood bond.

The terminology "slide" "Block" "Knob" are not necessarily universal.
Could you post a link to pictures?

[Alan Sharkis]

Duco Cement?

Post by d***@gmail.com
I've had a slide break up near the end block (the block that the knob screws into). These are flexible plastic slides, not wood. There's enough sticking out that I was able to tape it down.
I'm wondering where I can get a new slide. Wondering if they also sell a new block, as it has a groove in it that part of the slide fits into, and I'm going to assume the different stops have the block configured slightly differently based on how they are positioned together (but I could be wrong about that).
Also, what glue would be used to glue the slide to the block? I know hide glue is used in lots of accordion building, but, this is a plastic to wood bond.

[Ike Milligan]

Post by Alan Sharkis
Duco Cement?

Post by d***@gmail.com
I've had a slide break up near the end block (the block that the knob screws into). These are flexible plastic slides, not wood. There's enough sticking out that I was able to tape it down.
I'm wondering where I can get a new slide. Wondering if they also sell a new block, as it has a groove in it that part of the slide fits into, and I'm going to assume the different stops have the block configured slightly differently based on how they are positioned together (but I could be wrong about that).
Also, what glue would be used to glue the slide to the block? I know hide glue is used in lots of accordion building, but, this is a plastic to wood bond.

Well, i could probably tell you exactly what to do, but need you to post
a link to a picture so I can figure out what your terminology refers to.

[DoN. Nichols]

Post by Ike Milligan

Post by Alan Sharkis
Duco Cement?

Post by d***@gmail.com
I've had a slide break up near the end block (the block that the
knob screws into). These are flexible plastic slides, not wood.
There's enough sticking out that I was able to tape it down.
I'm wondering where I can get a new slide. Wondering if they also
sell a new block, as it has a groove in it that part of the slide fits
into, and I'm going to assume the different stops have the block
configured slightly differently based on how they are positioned
together (but I could be wrong about that).
Also, what glue would be used to glue the slide to the block? I
know hide glue is used in lots of accordion building, but, this is a
plastic to wood bond.

Well, i could probably tell you exactly what to do, but need you to post
a link to a picture so I can figure out what your terminology refers to.

I *think*, based on his terminology, that is is a button box,
similar to this one:

<www.acclab.com/accordionlab/mall/cotati/cajun/cajun.htm>

Where the knobs each operate a plastic slide which has apertures
spaces so they all block or all allow airflow access to a bank of reeds.
There is typically a wooden block on the end of the slide, to which the
knobs (visible at the top of the instrument in the photos) attach, and
which pulls or pushes the plastic slide. (PAs tend to have rocker
switches to operate similar slides through some kind of complex linkage,
and often have a given rocker open a number of slides and close a
different number of slides.)

I've seen the instruments with knobs in which some knobs are
dummys, making one think that there are more banks of reeds than are
really present. :-)

Anyway, I *suspect* that replacement slides would be solid. You
slide them into place, mark them through the holes where the reed block
attaches, then pull them out and *very* *carefully* cut rectangular
openings to match the instrument. It may be that mass production is to
the level where they can make them pre-cut, but it also may not, so it
will require more skill on the part of the person working on it.

And no, I don't work on these. I've just seen some. :-) And
really old ones may have thin Bakelite or Phenolic as the slides.

Squeeze On,
DoN.

[Ike Milligan]

Post by DoN. Nichols

Post by Ike Milligan

Post by Alan Sharkis
Duco Cement?

Post by d***@gmail.com
I've had a slide break up near the end block (the block that the
knob screws into). These are flexible plastic slides, not wood.
There's enough sticking out that I was able to tape it down.
I'm wondering where I can get a new slide. Wondering if they also
sell a new block, as it has a groove in it that part of the slide fits
into, and I'm going to assume the different stops have the block
configured slightly differently based on how they are positioned
together (but I could be wrong about that).
Also, what glue would be used to glue the slide to the block? I
know hide glue is used in lots of accordion building, but, this is a
plastic to wood bond.

Well, i could probably tell you exactly what to do, but need you to post
a link to a picture so I can figure out what your terminology refers to.

I *think*, based on his terminology, that is is a button box,
<www.acclab.com/accordionlab/mall/cotati/cajun/cajun.htm>
Where the knobs each operate a plastic slide which has apertures
spaces so they all block or all allow airflow access to a bank of reeds.
There is typically a wooden block on the end of the slide, to which the
knobs (visible at the top of the instrument in the photos) attach, and
which pulls or pushes the plastic slide. (PAs tend to have rocker
switches to operate similar slides through some kind of complex linkage,
and often have a given rocker open a number of slides and close a
different number of slides.)
I've seen the instruments with knobs in which some knobs are
dummys, making one think that there are more banks of reeds than are
really present. :-)
Anyway, I *suspect* that replacement slides would be solid. You
slide them into place, mark them through the holes where the reed block
attaches, then pull them out and *very* *carefully* cut rectangular
openings to match the instrument. It may be that mass production is to
the level where they can make them pre-cut, but it also may not, so it
will require more skill on the part of the person working on it.
And no, I don't work on these. I've just seen some. :-) And
really old ones may have thin Bakelite or Phenolic as the slides.
Squeeze On,
DoN.

One way to cut a new slide, actually used many years ago, if not now,
would be to have the blank slide in between the fondo and the reed block
and it be immobilized. then drill a hole in it and cut it out with a
jigsaw. now i think i know what Don is referring to, as many old
button-boxes have such slides.
The simple question what to use for gluing wood to plastic, would be
household "GOOP" which is often sold in hdwe stores, but there are
similar glues sold in auto parts stores.

[Ike Milligan]

Post by Ike Milligan

Post by DoN. Nichols

Post by Ike Milligan

Post by Alan Sharkis
Duco Cement?

Post by d***@gmail.com
I've had a slide break up near the end block (the block that the
knob screws into). These are flexible plastic slides, not wood.
There's enough sticking out that I was able to tape it down.
I'm wondering where I can get a new slide. Wondering if they also
sell a new block, as it has a groove in it that part of the slide fits
into, and I'm going to assume the different stops have the block
configured slightly differently based on how they are positioned
together (but I could be wrong about that).
Also, what glue would be used to glue the slide to the block? I
know hide glue is used in lots of accordion building, but, this is a
plastic to wood bond.

Well, i could probably tell you exactly what to do, but need you to post
a link to a picture so I can figure out what your terminology refers to.

I *think*, based on his terminology, that is is a button box,
<www.acclab.com/accordionlab/mall/cotati/cajun/cajun.htm>
Where the knobs each operate a plastic slide which has apertures
spaces so they all block or all allow airflow access to a bank of reeds.
There is typically a wooden block on the end of the slide, to which the
knobs (visible at the top of the instrument in the photos) attach, and
which pulls or pushes the plastic slide. (PAs tend to have rocker
switches to operate similar slides through some kind of complex linkage,
and often have a given rocker open a number of slides and close a
different number of slides.)
I've seen the instruments with knobs in which some knobs are
dummys, making one think that there are more banks of reeds than are
really present. :-)
Anyway, I *suspect* that replacement slides would be solid. You
slide them into place, mark them through the holes where the reed block
attaches, then pull them out and *very* *carefully* cut rectangular
openings to match the instrument. It may be that mass production is to
the level where they can make them pre-cut, but it also may not, so it
will require more skill on the part of the person working on it.
And no, I don't work on these. I've just seen some. :-) And
really old ones may have thin Bakelite or Phenolic as the slides.
Squeeze On,
DoN.

One way to cut a new slide, actually used many years ago, if not now,
would be to have the blank slide in between the fondo and the reed block
and it be immobilized. then drill a hole in it and cut it out with a
jigsaw. now i think i know what Don is referring to, as many old
button-boxes have such slides.
The simple question what to use for gluing wood to plastic, would be
household "GOOP" which is often sold in hdwe stores, but there are
similar glues sold in auto parts stores.

Used to be, they would clamp the key valve plate called "fondo" and the
reed block and the slides in the grooves all clamped together, marked
and cut out with a jigsaw. The groove was made by laying two strips of
wood side-by- side about the same thickness as the slide and distance
apart equal to the width of the slide. Then a strip as wide as the slide
under the slide. IOW the slide the block and the valve-hole all cut
together with a jigsaw.

[DoN. Nichols]

Post by Ike Milligan

Post by Ike Milligan

Post by DoN. Nichols

Post by Ike Milligan

Post by Alan Sharkis
Duco Cement?

Post by d***@gmail.com
I've had a slide break up near the end block (the block that the
knob screws into). These are flexible plastic slides, not wood.
There's enough sticking out that I was able to tape it down.

Well, i could probably tell you exactly what to do, but need you to post
a link to a picture so I can figure out what your terminology refers to.

I *think*, based on his terminology, that is is a button box,
<www.acclab.com/accordionlab/mall/cotati/cajun/cajun.htm>
Where the knobs each operate a plastic slide which has apertures
spaces so they all block or all allow airflow access to a bank of reeds.
There is typically a wooden block on the end of the slide, to which the
knobs (visible at the top of the instrument in the photos) attach, and
which pulls or pushes the plastic slide. (PAs tend to have rocker
switches to operate similar slides through some kind of complex linkage,
and often have a given rocker open a number of slides and close a
different number of slides.)

[ ... ]

Post by Ike Milligan

Post by Ike Milligan

Post by DoN. Nichols
Anyway, I *suspect* that replacement slides would be solid. You
slide them into place, mark them through the holes where the reed block
attaches, then pull them out and *very* *carefully* cut rectangular
openings to match the instrument. It may be that mass production is to
the level where they can make them pre-cut, but it also may not, so it
will require more skill on the part of the person working on it.
And no, I don't work on these. I've just seen some. :-) And
really old ones may have thin Bakelite or Phenolic as the slides.
Squeeze On,
DoN.

One way to cut a new slide, actually used many years ago, if not now,
would be to have the blank slide in between the fondo and the reed block
and it be immobilized. then drill a hole in it and cut it out with a
jigsaw. now i think i know what Don is referring to, as many old
button-boxes have such slides.
The simple question what to use for gluing wood to plastic, would be
household "GOOP" which is often sold in hdwe stores, but there are
similar glues sold in auto parts stores.

Perhaps "Gorilla Glue" (try it with scraps of the same
materials first). Beware that it tends to expand while drying, so let
it dry and then sand off any excess which oozed out of the slot.

Post by Ike Milligan
Used to be, they would clamp the key valve plate called "fondo" and the
reed block and the slides in the grooves all clamped together, marked
and cut out with a jigsaw. The groove was made by laying two strips of
wood side-by- side about the same thickness as the slide and distance
apart equal to the width of the slide. Then a strip as wide as the slide
under the slide. IOW the slide the block and the valve-hole all cut
together with a jigsaw.

Thus the chances of finding one from the maker with the holes
pre-cut to fit are pretty slim. Each instrument would be somewhat
unique in the hole placement and shape. Plan on doing some careful work
to adapt a blank slide to the instrument.

Good luck,
DoN.

[Ike Milligan]

Post by DoN. Nichols

Post by Ike Milligan

Post by Ike Milligan

Post by DoN. Nichols

Post by Ike Milligan

Post by Alan Sharkis
Duco Cement?

Post by d***@gmail.com
I've had a slide break up near the end block (the block that the
knob screws into). These are flexible plastic slides, not wood.
There's enough sticking out that I was able to tape it down.

Well, i could probably tell you exactly what to do, but need you to post
a link to a picture so I can figure out what your terminology refers to.

I *think*, based on his terminology, that is is a button box,
<www.acclab.com/accordionlab/mall/cotati/cajun/cajun.htm>
Where the knobs each operate a plastic slide which has apertures
spaces so they all block or all allow airflow access to a bank of reeds.
There is typically a wooden block on the end of the slide, to which the
knobs (visible at the top of the instrument in the photos) attach, and
which pulls or pushes the plastic slide. (PAs tend to have rocker
switches to operate similar slides through some kind of complex linkage,
and often have a given rocker open a number of slides and close a
different number of slides.)

[ ... ]

Post by Ike Milligan

Post by Ike Milligan

Post by DoN. Nichols
Anyway, I *suspect* that replacement slides would be solid. You
slide them into place, mark them through the holes where the reed block
attaches, then pull them out and *very* *carefully* cut rectangular
openings to match the instrument. It may be that mass production is to
the level where they can make them pre-cut, but it also may not, so it
will require more skill on the part of the person working on it.
And no, I don't work on these. I've just seen some. :-) And
really old ones may have thin Bakelite or Phenolic as the slides.
Squeeze On,
DoN.

One way to cut a new slide, actually used many years ago, if not now,
would be to have the blank slide in between the fondo and the reed block
and it be immobilized. then drill a hole in it and cut it out with a
jigsaw. now i think i know what Don is referring to, as many old
button-boxes have such slides.
The simple question what to use for gluing wood to plastic, would be
household "GOOP" which is often sold in hdwe stores, but there are
similar glues sold in auto parts stores.

Perhaps "Gorilla Glue" (try it with scraps of the same
materials first). Beware that it tends to expand while drying, so let
it dry and then sand off any excess which oozed out of the slot.

Post by Ike Milligan
Used to be, they would clamp the key valve plate called "fondo" and the
reed block and the slides in the grooves all clamped together, marked
and cut out with a jigsaw. The groove was made by laying two strips of
wood side-by- side about the same thickness as the slide and distance
apart equal to the width of the slide. Then a strip as wide as the slide
under the slide. IOW the slide the block and the valve-hole all cut
together with a jigsaw.

Thus the chances of finding one from the maker with the holes
pre-cut to fit are pretty slim. Each instrument would be somewhat
unique in the hole placement and shape. Plan on doing some careful work
to adapt a blank slide to the instrument.
Good luck,
DoN.

Another alternative would be to pull some slides out of junk piano
accordions and find one that matched, and adapt it. Sometimes parts
accordions show up on ebay. That's going to end up copsting you though.
Runa 2 line ad with you phone number saying "Free accordion wanted".

[Ike Milligan]

Post by Ike Milligan

Post by DoN. Nichols

Post by Ike Milligan

Post by Ike Milligan

Post by DoN. Nichols

Post by Ike Milligan

Post by Alan Sharkis
Duco Cement?
On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 11:40:40 -0700 (PDT),

Post by d***@gmail.com
I've had a slide break up near the end block (the block that the
knob screws into). These are flexible plastic slides, not wood.
There's enough sticking out that I was able to tape it down.

Well, i could probably tell you exactly what to do, but need you to post
a link to a picture so I can figure out what your terminology refers to.

I *think*, based on his terminology, that is is a button box,
<www.acclab.com/accordionlab/mall/cotati/cajun/cajun.htm>
Where the knobs each operate a plastic slide which has apertures
spaces so they all block or all allow airflow access to a bank of reeds.
There is typically a wooden block on the end of the slide, to which the
knobs (visible at the top of the instrument in the photos) attach, and
which pulls or pushes the plastic slide. (PAs tend to have rocker
switches to operate similar slides through some kind of complex linkage,
and often have a given rocker open a number of slides and close a
different number of slides.)

[ ... ]

Post by Ike Milligan

Post by Ike Milligan

Post by DoN. Nichols
Anyway, I *suspect* that replacement slides would be solid. You
slide them into place, mark them through the holes where the reed block
attaches, then pull them out and *very* *carefully* cut rectangular
openings to match the instrument. It may be that mass production is to
the level where they can make them pre-cut, but it also may not, so it
will require more skill on the part of the person working on it.
And no, I don't work on these. I've just seen some. :-) And
really old ones may have thin Bakelite or Phenolic as the slides.
Squeeze On,
DoN.

One way to cut a new slide, actually used many years ago, if not now,
would be to have the blank slide in between the fondo and the reed block
and it be immobilized. then drill a hole in it and cut it out with a
jigsaw. now i think i know what Don is referring to, as many old
button-boxes have such slides.
The simple question what to use for gluing wood to plastic, would be
household "GOOP" which is often sold in hdwe stores, but there are
similar glues sold in auto parts stores.

Perhaps "Gorilla Glue" (try it with scraps of the same
materials first). Beware that it tends to expand while drying, so let
it dry and then sand off any excess which oozed out of the slot.

Post by Ike Milligan
Used to be, they would clamp the key valve plate called "fondo" and the
reed block and the slides in the grooves all clamped together, marked
and cut out with a jigsaw. The groove was made by laying two strips of
wood side-by- side about the same thickness as the slide and distance
apart equal to the width of the slide. Then a strip as wide as the slide
under the slide. IOW the slide the block and the valve-hole all cut
together with a jigsaw.

Thus the chances of finding one from the maker with the holes
pre-cut to fit are pretty slim. Each instrument would be somewhat
unique in the hole placement and shape. Plan on doing some careful work
to adapt a blank slide to the instrument.
Good luck,
DoN.

Another alternative would be to pull some slides out of junk piano
accordions and find one that matched, and adapt it. Sometimes parts
accordions show up on ebay. That's going to end up copsting you though.
Runa 2 line ad with you phone number saying "Free accordion wanted".

One more idea. Weltmeister is still in business. If they still make the
accordion, they will have parts. Let me know if you find it is still
being sold. The reason I didn't mention it before, is I haven't kept up
with their product line. I might even be able to order parts, but find
out if they still sell it.

[d***@gmail.com]

Post by DoN. Nichols

Post by Ike Milligan

Post by Alan Sharkis
Duco Cement?

Post by d***@gmail.com
I've had a slide break up near the end block (the block that the
knob screws into). These are flexible plastic slides, not wood.
There's enough sticking out that I was able to tape it down.
I'm wondering where I can get a new slide. Wondering if they also
sell a new block, as it has a groove in it that part of the slide fits
into, and I'm going to assume the different stops have the block
configured slightly differently based on how they are positioned
together (but I could be wrong about that).
Also, what glue would be used to glue the slide to the block? I
know hide glue is used in lots of accordion building, but, this is a
plastic to wood bond.

Well, i could probably tell you exactly what to do, but need you to post
a link to a picture so I can figure out what your terminology refers to.

I *think*, based on his terminology, that is is a button box,
<www.acclab.com/accordionlab/mall/cotati/cajun/cajun.htm>
Where the knobs each operate a plastic slide which has apertures
spaces so they all block or all allow airflow access to a bank of reeds.
There is typically a wooden block on the end of the slide, to which the
knobs (visible at the top of the instrument in the photos) attach, and
which pulls or pushes the plastic slide. (PAs tend to have rocker
switches to operate similar slides through some kind of complex linkage,
and often have a given rocker open a number of slides and close a
different number of slides.)
I've seen the instruments with knobs in which some knobs are
dummys, making one think that there are more banks of reeds than are
really present. :-)
Anyway, I *suspect* that replacement slides would be solid. You
slide them into place, mark them through the holes where the reed block
attaches, then pull them out and *very* *carefully* cut rectangular
openings to match the instrument. It may be that mass production is to
the level where they can make them pre-cut, but it also may not, so it
will require more skill on the part of the person working on it.
And no, I don't work on these. I've just seen some. :-) And
really old ones may have thin Bakelite or Phenolic as the slides.
Squeeze On,
DoN.
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Yes, it's a cajun button box. The knob is one of the four knobs on top for moving the "slides" i.e. opening or closing the bank of reeds. This is what would be a register on a piano accordion or a multi-row diatonic.